Queer: Although defined as a "man that likes man," in the modern west, under the politics of LGBT where the distinction between 'man' and 'male' is formally negated (but not informally), the actual and original meaning of a queer is "a strongly feminine gendered male." In the past, such males were seen as seeking receptive sex from men conducting themselves as whores.
Under the original gender system, a feminine gendered male is not a 'man.' He is part of third gender. (S)he is also referred to as a 'male with a female nature' (Tritiya prakriti).
A Queer includes a male that adopts several female gender roles, dresses, etc. and includes crossdressers and transvestites apart from gays. However, a Queer may be distinguished from other identities as follows:
Straight-acting males: Straight acting gays are males who like men who are mildly feminine gendered and they prefer to hide their femininity and act straight, without actually striving for social manhood. Queers are strongly feminine gendered and usually partially or fully conduct themselves as females.
If the politics of manhood is not there, the straight acting males would be part of the 'manhood' space, and would denounce the 'gay' label. But, even under normal circumstances most queers would seek a different identity from the 'manhood' identity.
Transexual males: Transexual males are males that are feminine gendered to the extreme and are not comfortable with a female body, and usually seek to get rid of their male organ, either through castration or through sex change.
Queers are comfortable with their male body.
Further information: Since traditionally the gender role of the third gender has been to seek receptive sex from men (and this is the reason why receptive sex has been so stigmatized for men since the ancient times), Queers in the past had been defined as "feminine males that seek men." Feminine males that were interested in women usually were either invisible, or they passed off as 'homosexuals' or sometimes forced themselves to seek receptive sex from men. Most Queer males interested in women -- although, third gender in nature -- were counted as 'men' since manhood came to be hinged upon penetrating (and indirectly, desiring) women.
Today, in the west, many feminine heterosexuals are opting for the "Queer Heterosexual" identity leaving the 'straight' identity.
Heterosexuality inherently QueerIt would be pertinent to add here that, irrespective of what the politics of manhood makes it seem through social engineering, Heterosexuality is inherently Queer. It is not a manly quality, unlike what is propagated by the West. Men are never heterosexual by nature. In most mammalian species, only the transgendered mammalian males are heterosexual.
By heterosexual, we don't mean the usual definition followed in the west, which includes any male that penetrates women or claims to desire women.
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um, sorry but no. The gender you are attracted to and your own gender are separate (yet related) parts of your identity. My male self Identified gay friend is very much a masculine male, not of a third gender at all. I am a bisexual woman, but I am very feminine and people usually assume that I am straight. I embrace my femininity and womanhood. being a dyke has nothing to do with my own gender.
Anya, thank you for your comment.
First of all, male gender and sexuality and female gender and sexuality cannot be compared, and drawn parallels with. They both may operate on totally different patterns.
Second, you live in a society where sexual identities are forced on people, and yes, some masculine males do call themselves 'gay.' However, its not only inappropriate, these men live almost like 'fish out of water' in the gay community -- as total misfits. Sometimes, because the West is such an individualistic society, you can probably live on your own, cut-off from the so-called 'gay' community, and still call yourself 'gay' -- but that is not the point. The point is, that it is a wrong classification. The masculine males who are part of the 'gay' world are rare, compared to the fact that almost every masculine male has strong sexual and romantic urges for another man.
As for your own experiences of being a feminine bisexual female, well, I have no comments, as I'm no expert on female gender and sexuality. Amongst females, an exclusive sexual desire for women may or may not be related with a masculine gender (a male identity) or a lack of a female gender -- I cannot comment. Either way, it is not not related with male gender and sexuality.
Rayoverde, desde Santander, España.
First of all, sorry for my English.
Anya, no one says your friend, if is masculine, stop being male, because he defines tlemselve gay and belongs to the third kind, it just happens to be wrong to define themselves gay.
It is a trap in the West have tended to men who like men. I am heterosexual, according to the Western conceptualization, maculine man, and I fully understand what is said on the blog.
Look, I'll tell you an anecdote that happened to me more than a decade ago, whose protagonist was a boy of fifteen years old
I knew by sight of a boy about fifteen years old. I did not know as he was called, but who was the son.
A day I went into the shop that his mother was in the neighborhood where I live. At that time were in that little shop, she, the boy's mother, a woman friend, client, and me.
The boy in question was a handsome, manly, masculine traits and manners of men.
The conversation that brought the two ladies was about the son of the former, in its absence.
The convrsación was developed in the following terms:
Boy's mother -. You know who told me the other day my son?.
"Mama, sit down and do not worry. I am a very man ...
At this time I thought to myself [pokes going to say it has left a girl pregnant), but no.
... But I like boys.
Mind the care they put the boy in his mother made clear that he was and is very man, and the care that was not to say the word homosexual or gay.
And surely the boy did not feel belonging to the gay space, which has connotations which do not accord with what he and many others are, as these connotations have been fixed by the company as gender identity, apart from being a space marginalization, and pejorative aspects.
The world's "gay", which lately has become an urban culture [gay pride day, etc.) that far from helping to standardization, helping to give arms to homophobia.
Many men who like men, you often say they are only "homosexual" when they do sex, and that the rest of the time they are not, meaning that people who are not apart from society, not belong to another world, who do not accept the homosexual space to which they were expelled as a space of marginalization, unsweetened urban culture today as more or less tolerated.
However, ignorance is great and the conversation went as follows, in a way that shows off the stereotypes that are given to male homoerotic, apart from complete ignorance.
Answer the friend - "And you've already been to the gynecologist?.
At that time, I wanted to go back to the client and throw an insult, but as is evident, for education, I did not.
We must rescue our boys from that world and convince them that do not belong to the gay world because they are also the first kind.
Rayoverde, desde Santander, España.
First of all, sorry for my English.
Anya, no one says your friend, if is masculine, stop being male, because he defines tlemselve gay and belongs to the third kind, it just happens to be wrong to define themselves gay.
It is a trap in the West have tended to men who like men. I am heterosexual, according to the Western conceptualization, maculine man, and I fully understand what is said on the blog.
Look, I'll tell you an anecdote that happened to me more than a decade ago, whose protagonist was a boy of fifteen years old
I knew by sight of a boy about fifteen years old. I did not know as he was called, but who was the son.
A day I went into the shop that his mother was in the neighborhood where I live. At that time were in that little shop, she, the boy's mother, a woman friend, client, and me.
The boy in question was a handsome, manly, masculine traits and manners of men.
The conversation that brought the two ladies was about the son of the former, in its absence.
The convrsación was developed in the following terms:
Boy's mother -. You know who told me the other day my son?.
"Mama, sit down and do not worry. I am a very man ...
At this time I thought to myself [pokes going to say it has left a girl pregnant), but no.
... But I like boys.
Mind the care they put the boy in his mother made clear that he was and is very man, and the care that was not to say the word homosexual or gay.
And surely the boy did not feel belonging to the gay space, which has connotations which do not accord with what he and many others are, as these connotations have been fixed by the company as gender identity, apart from being a space marginalization, and pejorative aspects.
Rayoverde, desde Santander, España.
been fully my previous comment.
The world's "gay", which lately has become an urban culture [gay pride day, etc.) that far from helping to standardization, helping to give arms to homophobia.
Many men who like men, you often say they are only "homosexual" when they do sex, and that the rest of the time they are not, meaning that people who are not apart from society, not belong to another world, who do not accept the homosexual space to which they were expelled as a space of marginalization, unsweetened urban culture today as more or less tolerated.
However, ignorance is great and the conversation went as follows, in a way that shows off the stereotypes that are given to male homoerotic, apart from complete ignorance.
Answer the friend - "And you've already been to the gynecologist?.
At that time, I wanted to go back to the client and throw an insult, but as is evident, for education, I did not.
We must rescue our boys from that world and convince them that do not belong to the gay world because they are also the first kind.
Thank you Rayoverde, very well said.
May I also advise not to use the word 'homophobia' because, its also a derivative of the invalid western concept of 'homosexuality.'
It actually means 'sissyphobia' or phobia of the third gender. If not for 'sissyphobia' there would be no 'homophobia' but only religious injunctions.
So... wait... I'm not understanging here. You're saying that, in order to be 'gay' or 'homosexual', a man HAS to be of the third gender? What? That makes absolutely no sence. I know plenty of men who are quote 'homosexual', but would be greatly offended if you called them 'third gender'. You don't have to be a man to be atracted to a man, and YES there are other factors to being gay then JUST genetics, though I know that there is some validation behind what you're saying. True TRANSGENDERS have the genetics (brains/souls of women, as you would say.), though that is just one category of the homosexualo umbrella, if you will.
I also know masculine men who are rather active parts of the gay comunity and LIKE it. I think that it's rather prejudiced to say that because they have masculine tastes and mannerisms that they can't be gay. It makes no sence.
Could you explain to me how heterosexuality isn't natural to men, either? Basically you're saying that a man's first instinct is to sleep with a man and not a woman which means every man would be gay and the human race would be dead and gone a long time ago.
Or that every man with a wife is of the third gender. Take your pick.
I would also like to see some sort of a link to some page of scientific verafication to what you're saying. You need to have some sort of fact to back this up, or else I'm not buying it one bit.
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